Comments on: New GTD Workflow Diagram https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=new-gtd-workflow-diagram David Allen's GTDĀ® Methodology Mon, 03 Feb 2014 22:39:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: Bhavesh Naik https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1202 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:18:48 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1202 Here’s a quick way to figure out whether it’s worth spending your money on these posters. Do you think that, honest to god now, you can make or save $500 after buying these posters within a reasonable amount of time?

If the answer is a resounding “yes,” go for it and get them.

If the answer is “no,” just let it go and move on.

If the answer is “I don’t know”, wait till you see a friend’s or a co-worker’s posters and see if you could get that value.

In the free market society, ultimately, the price of the goods is defined by what people are willing to pay for it. Being in the same “business of the intangible” that David is in, I often advise my prospective clients to only engage with us if they are reasonably confident that their ROI is ten times the price-tag. Without it, for most people, it’s hard to justify the cost of the investment, at least at the point of purchase.

– Bhavesh.

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By: Sam Williams https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1201 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:30:39 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1201 One way to think about the value of the package to you might be in terms of your time, quality of work/life, and earnings. If you believe the map will make a difference on any of these fronts, then surely it’s worth many times $49.

Dave and David, the map looks like a home run to me – kudos. Unfortunately, FYI, it’s too large for my setup. I rarely use my offices at work and at home; I carry a 13″ MacBook with an A4-size conference folder and wouldn’t want to be folding and unfolding the map constantly. As it is, I use a free version of the workflow map (http://anabubula.com/files/GTDclouds_1920_wide.jpg) as my desktop background, with a hot corner on my screen to reveal the desktop quickly. My lists are all in Things, and I use SizeUp to make Things quickly fill half of the screen so I can process with most of the map visible.

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By: Kelly Forrister https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1200 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:37:17 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1200 Hi John,

We can appreciate your frustration in having to wait for this product. We would have loved it to come out ages ago too, but we strive for excellence and we wanted to put out the best product we possibly could, and there were many unexpected production factors that came into play. Sorry you are negatively perceiving that as a “great performance.” That would be a mastery skill if we had planned it this way, for sure!

Kelly

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By: John L https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1199 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:22:28 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1199 I’m less upset about the $49.00 as I am that this actually took 2 years to design. I suspect DavidCo is merely doing what every successful entertainer does… reel you in with great performance, fancy footwork, and finally a big bill. Good luck to all who’ve been to the show. Something better always comes along.

-John

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By: Matt R https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1198 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:30:08 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1198 Any update on when this will be available?

-Matt

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By: Al Byrne https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1197 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:20:27 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1197 Liz, will the graphic, eventually, be made available as a *.pdf file (at any price!)?

The nature of my service as a military officer means that I’m best served by being able to scale up/down as needed to make printed versions of such useful diagrams that fit into a pocket sized booklets (which lasts maybe a couple months before being worn down to tattered trash!), or, when I’m on the ship, I make a larger version which I laminate onto my desk, and remove when I come ashore. I guess you can see that a permanent hanging ‘art-work’ is pretty much unusable for me.

Your ideas?

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By: Richard George https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1196 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:28:13 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1196 All I can say is this. I have never, ever, purchased anything from the David Allen Company that did not provide great value, including things like the steel upright file folder stands, which appeared to be highly priced until I received them and used them.

I have faith that the product will provide good value.

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By: Liz Harward- Dir of Product Dev. https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1195 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:51:04 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1195 Hi all,

Just found out that this poster in all likelihood will be in the DAC store in August 2009, it comes with a DVD and I will be able to post a clip of a short portion on the product page so all will be able to see it and preview. I do appreciate your patience and I truly understand budgetary constraints! As David says we are “all alone in this together” so to that end just know you can always email me personally (customerservice@davidco.com ) with feedback and you will be heard! I love the passion that GTDers bring to all this work. My goal here is to have some great bundles and value for everyone. Thanks for playing.

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By: Lynn O'Connor https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1194 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:09:19 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1194 I certainly did not intend to offend anyone in passing on my reaction to the $49 price tag to a new visual aid. But when you discuss (see above) a “work of art” and the price of a work of art, high priced works of art are usually one of a kind, unless the work of art is a lithograph or the equivalent, and even then, the number of copies are limited.

To anyone who would suggest that those of us questioning the pricing of this item are not GTD-ers “if you call yourself a GTDer..” please step back for a moment

I am not questioning anyone’s serious intentions and respect for GTD if they fail to make use of every learning opportunity offered by Davidco, such as membership in GTD Connect.

Personally, I come up with $49.00 every single month and have for quite a while now, as a member of GTD connect. Do you pay $49 every month in order to make use of every learning opportunity offered by Davidco? Am I serious about supporting my GTD efforts, or do I just send $49 a month to every passing service that captures my imagination?

This discussion has become way too heavy. I use GTD, fall off the wagon, get back on. I teach GTD to my doctoral students (as much as they will let me, students are often not yet at the point that they know they need a serious method to help with work/life organization). And I spend $49 a month to continue to learn, and to support my own engagement with GTD. Perhaps its time to change the GTD budget, and put the monthly payments into the new packages appearing. And hey, lets get some friendly humor into discussion of pricing.

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By: Dave Gray https://gettingthingsdone.com/2009/07/new-gtd-workflow-diagram/#comment-1193 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:29:12 +0000 http://www.gtdtimes.com/?p=1855#comment-1193 I am surprised that people are so resistant to the price of this poster.

Even a glance should confirm that this is a work of art and a labor of love. It’s a beautiful piece and was two years in the making.

It seems that people do admire this work, and recognize its importance, yet find $49 to be somehow prohibitive.

For a work of art, $49 is prohibitive.

Are you kidding me? Prohibitive? A LOT of money? Offensive?

Please.

If you “second those thoughts” you need to get a grip. It takes a lot of time and effort to develop this kind of diagram. It’s a significant investment.

$49 is the price of a lamp. It’s the price of a dinner. The price of taking your family to a movie. Ten days worth of Caffe Lattes. Gimme a break.

If you call yourself a “GTDer” and you can’t find a way to come up with $49, I have to question what GTD means to you and whether you are really serious about “getting things done.”

When youy that $49 is “too much,” I think that in most cases you have the money but choose to spend it on other things. Well good for you, choose where you spend your money. That’s your right.

Buy the poster or don’t buy it, but don’t tell people that it’s offensive to charge $49 for a work of art.

As an artist who’s try to make a living creating beautiful and meaningful visuals, that attitude demeans and insults my profession.

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